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progress creating jobs or he's not. i can't think of anything that will distract from that number. eight obama wins. nine, romney wins. "the ed show" starts now. good evening, americans. george zimmerman took the stand and apologized for killing trayvon martin. the victim's family refused the apology. there is no apology from the republicans for the war on the poor. this is "the ed show." >> i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. >> george zimmerman surprises everyone and takes the stand. is he trying to taint a jury pool? we'll ask martin family defense attorney. new polling shows the president is crushing mitt romney with women, latinos and young people. mitt romney is winning the ted nugent head nodders. >> this factory is empty.
it was closed in 2008 after the beginning of the economic downturn. >> tonight mitt romney's manufacturing lies in the buck eye state and jonathan al der with handicap the race. republicans continue to get destroyed fir their immoral budget. >> they're saying you're taking from the poor and enriching the people who already wellç off a you're disproportionally hurting the poor. >> is thatg? good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watch approximaing. a simple bond hearing turn into an unexpected mini trial. the biggest surprise came when george zimmerman took the stand after his lawyer said he wanted to make statement to couthe cou. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was.
i thought he was a little younger than i am. i did not know if he was armed or not. >> the prosecution cross examined if he expressed his regret on the night of killing. >> after you committed this crime and spoke to the police, did you ever make that statement to the police, sir? that you were sorry fr what you done or their loss? >> no, sir. >> you never stated that. >> i don't remember what i said. i believe i said that. >> you told that to the police? >> in one of the statements i said i felt sorry for the family. >> you did? >> yes, sir. >> they wanted to know why he waited the day of his bond hearing to apologize to the family. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother, why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to communicate with them. >> in his apology today,
zimmerman said he thought trayvon martin was a little bit younger than çhim, but what abt the 911 call when george zimmerman said trayvon martin was in his late teens. >> how old would you say he looks? >> late teens. >> today, george zimmerman's lawyer questioned the prosecution's investigator extensively about the probable cause affidavit against his client zimmerman. >> you used the word confronted. i want to now know your evidence to support the word confronted. if you have any. >> it's not that i have any. it's a word i use. i probably could have used 30 words. >> the prosecutor countered with this. >> if mr. martin was minding his own business and going home and somebody starts accusing him of something, wouldn't you consider that a confrontation? >> the defense took another crack at that one.
>> do you have any evidence that supports who may have started the fight? >> no. >> keep in mind george zimmerman probably could have been granted bail without any of this. early year in the same hearing george zimmerman's mother, wife as father testified by speakerphone. zimmerman's father said his son was swollen and cut the day after killing trayvon martin. zimmerman's father was asked if he had seen pictures of his son's injuries. >> i saw one on the news today. >> the state attorney's office ever show you any of those pictures? >> no, they did not. >> father is referring to this photo taken of george zimmerman's head on his head was obviously clean by the time zimmerman was taken to the police station for questioning that night. today, the prosecution hinted at
how they will address this issue. >> did he not describe to the police that mr. martin had him on the ground and kept bashing his head on the concrete over and over and physically just beating him with his hands? >> he said that, yes. >> isn't it true there's evidence that indicates it's not true? >> yes. >> judge kenneth lester set bail at $150,000 and said zimmerman could reside outside of florida. he must use a monitoring device. may not use alcohol or drugs and must abide by a curfew of 7:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. in the morning. get your cell phones out. is zimmerman's defense trying to taint the jury pool? text a for yes. text b for no. you can go to our blog and leave a comment. we'll bring results of the poll later in the show.
i'm joined by a florida criminal defense attorney. jane, good to have you with us tonight. thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> when i turned on the coverage this morning watching here on msnbc is what is this. this is the most detailed basicalbail hearing i've seen. it just got so detailed. your thoughts. >> inç florida it's pretty standard for a arthur hearing. in that sense it was really a very routine bond hearing. they usually do present the probably cause affidavit and the defense lawyer usually does cross exam the lead detective. all was fine and normal until everyone was shocked, included me when george zimmerman was called to the witness stand to apologize.
it was irrelevant testimony. it was shocking. the witness stand is not place to deliver messages. it's a place for relevant testimony. it seemed a lot of pandering for nothing. >> is this an attempt to taint the jury poll? pool? >> i think it was pandering to the jury pool. >> why would zimmerman's lawyer allow him to say trayvon was a bit younger than zimmerman's own 911 contradicts that. that's pretty much fact, isn't it? >> yes, it is. i think o'mara was surprised by that response. >> is he mopping up? does he have to do some managing here after that? >> not really because he did walk out of there with a bond. there's no evidence who started this fight. when you're having a
self-defense case, that's a really nice piece of evidence to walk out of a courtroom with. >> jane, what was your opinion of the state's attorney there. >> i thought he was very aggressive. >> i thought he was very aggressive as well. he was very aggressive with the press afterwards. very petulant almost. i hope you just wait to hear the evidence. the press is not the jury pool. the defense, the same thing. here are lawyers both sides who come out and tell a judge last week that they need to keep all the court records sealed. we have a star chamber going on until we have a hearing from the media later. meanwhile, they are both holding press conferences in three-ring circuses. i don't understand where the lawyers are going where the press. >> will zimmerman's testimony today be admissible in this trial? >> no. it won't be. there are five other statements from him. it will be admissible if he takes the witness stand nb
another proceedings and examined with this statement. >> thank you so much for joining us tonight. let's turn to daryl parks, attorney for the family of trayvon martin. good to have you with us. >> good evening. >> some time ago on this program you told me the family would accept an apology because they are a christian family. yet, the apology was offered in court today and it's my understanding that the family did not accept it. take us down that road. what happened? >> yesterday, ed, made an overture to the family that he wanted to make an apology. we responded in order to do that we thought it was a time and place to do that and we would probably do that some point in the future. however, we knew that we did fwhoont to go into this proceeding and do sump a thing. when he took the stand andç di not offer evidence. he directed his attention to mr.
tracy martin and to miss sybrina ful t fulton which was inappropriate. >> did the family know he was going to take the stand? >> no. >> what was the response when this was taking place? >> they were very surprised. we thought it was clear there's a time and place for that, but this wasn't the time and place. >> why do you think he took the stand? what do you think this defense attorney is doing? >> well, i think it was completely self-serving. it may be a bit pandering to the jury a bit. we see it as totally inappropriate for what it took place. i think it's important, when you're in a pretrial situation, you are offered evidence to the court that deals with those conditions in order to set a bond. in this particular case, rather than asking him a question, his lawyer doesn't ask him a question. he can direct himself to the
court, which is the proper thing to do. we have pretty much a spectacle that was made in this courtroom. >> do you think it was an attempt to taint the jury? >> i wouldn't go that far. >> why not? >> i think he had his own reason for doing it. we as lawyers are not supposed to do that. i don't think he was trying to do that on this occasion. >> how unusual was it to take the stand in bail hearing especially with the circumstances and the media attention? >> i think it's very unusual. i was in the courtrmo before he took the stand, they conferred a bit. it seemed as if the decision may have been made there on the spot. >> you think it was made on the spot. >> i said they conferred for some time period. it wasn't as if he took him and popped him on the stand. then he went up there. >> after the proceeding took place, what was the reaction of the martin family? >> well, it was rather clear at
the beginning of the court's pronouncement concerning some of the past action offense mr. zimmerman, the family was devastated. they found it very difficult to sit in the courtroom as the court began to announce its decision. >> do you think george zimmerman hurt his case or helped his case by taking the stand? >> i think it's very difficult to say either way. i think it's important to note that the state was not attempting to try his case at bail hearing. they have a whole bunch of other evidence they were going to present. i don't think anyone should read into this as them trying their case. >> did it matter to the martin family whether he stays behind bars or not? >> because he was just arrested last week, at this particular point, they would have felt better had he stayed in jail for now. >> what about the $150,000. that number has been tossed around a bit that this isn't that much. your thoughts. >> it's not that much.
we won't comment on how much the court should have set the became for. ill only takes $15,000 in the right surety agent to get him out. that's not a lot. >> is this the right move? thisç happens all the time tha someone would get bail on a second-degree murder charge. this isn't unusual in that regard. in this case, were you thinking going into that courtroom, he'sgoing to be released and there's going to be some conditions and the fact he's out of state. >> i think -- any florida lawyer knew bail was a real possibility in this case. we all hoped he wouldn't get bail given the totality of the situation. i think the family just had a little bit of an issue with how it went down in terms of the pronouncement. we still have confidence in this court system that justice will revail in the end. >> the final question, what is
your reaction to the photos that were released by abc news that clearly shows that there was blood, a lot of blood on george zimmerman's head. >> let me say this. we know there was a fight. we know it was a tough fight, right. him getting hit on the head was part of it. remember this kid was unarmed. if he had to fight for his life from a guy who had a .9mm. he still had a deadly weapon and in the end he shot trayvon martin. >> i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> remember to answer tonight's question. we want to know what you think. coming up, mitt romney is losing to president obama on just about every issue. his only hope is for the economy to go south before november. later, paul ryan continues to defend the republican war on the poor. michael eric dysonç joins me. stay with us. we're right back. three-in-one detergent.
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welcome back. six and a half months before the election things are looking promising for president obama. a poll shows the president is leading the republican nominee by six points. the president is dominating almost all groups. he's ahead among african-american, latinos, young voters, women, independents, midwesterners and suburban women which leaves mitt romney with white suburban men. his advantage doesn't entd there. voters think he's more easy going and likable and the president is crushing romney on women's issues and the middle class. president obama has an advantage on range of personal qualities from knowledge and personal to honesty. the only hope for mitt romney as many people see it is the economy. he has a six point percentage lead on the question of which
candidate has better ideas for ç improving the economy. romney isn't going to worry about apipealing to women, lat n latinos or african-american. he's running on the economy. he has an uphill battle to convince americans the economy is in really bad shape. romney will hope for a month of negative job numbers and he'll have to ride that horse till november. he will play to the base and hope enough people will buy his arguments that tax cuts for the wealthy will be the answer to create jobs. he doesn't have any other card to play right now. it may seem crazy but with these numbers i think he's running out of time to affect any other area but the economy. rom has mitt romneying as an opt if the election were held today, he would be in huge trouble and it would be a big win for president obama. let's turn to jonathan alter.
what do you make of these numbers? >> good to see you. >> i think these numbers are encouraging. >> i guess i would disagree a little bit. i don't mean to be the skeptic, but you have to look at the polls in context of the other polls. there's quite a number that are not as favorable. they all have in common is the country still feels like it's on the wrong track. the right track, wrong track number is 60% in our poll, in the nbc poll. 60% believe we're on the wrong track. that's not good news for president obama. you're right if the election were held today, he would win. it's not being held today. weç don't know whether the economy in the next few months might do what it did in 2010 and 2011, which is sag in the summer. if that happens, this is going to be a very close election. americans are very focused on
the economy. the other issues peripheral for them. >> if there's one month or two months where there's negative numbers, that's only going to bolster the case. that clearly it seems is what romney is going to run on. he's so far behind with latinos, does he worry about that? >> yeah. they've had many meetings about that. >> what can they do? >> the first thing they did is had marco rubio retreat from the rubio-romney opposition to the dream act. he came up with a like fudge sort of half dream act that would give young immigrants who were brought here by their parents some sort of status, legal status short of citizenship. >> would that be enough to change how people -- >> i don't think so. what they're trying to do on medicare and immigration and
even on dogs is fuzz up the issue. obama has this issue with romney putting the dog on the top of the car. they come back with obama eats dog meat. >> when he was a kid. >> whatever it is, they're going to try to fuzz up the issue. we'll see how they execute on that. as you said, at the top, their ace in the hole is a bad economy. that's a pretty strange place to be where the only way mitt romney getsç elected is if everybody else suffers. >> that's the narrative we have seen from the republican leadership and the house and senate. they have been complaining about the economy and have done nothing to help it for the last several years. the tone is going to be important too. jeb bush and mitch daniels have warned them to stay away from negative campaigning. you know, sooner or later voters are going to want to know what you stand for and what your plan is. he's already said you can't even score his budget.
what about his peers telling him to lighten up? >> he's got two big problems on economic issues. the first is he's lashed himself to the ryan plan, which as you will hear just a disaster. it cuts off kinds of the central functions of government beyond hurting the poor, it eats our seed corn. it doesn't invest anymore. cutting medical labs. >> they are saying the poor have got to do more. >> and saying we're not going to do anything to educate our populace. cuts in pell grants. >> romney is connected to that? >> he's tied to that. he also had this situation where he's wedded to the bush policy, which is tax cuts. if you look at the 57 proposals that he has for fixing the economy, almost all of them are tax cuts. we tried that, ed, and it failed.
when he tries to make the argument that his tax cuts are the way to get the economy going on a better track, the president is going to be able to say been there, done that, didn't çwork. >> finally, mitt romney has had some awkward moments with people out on the campaign trial. one this week dissing the cookies and not responding when some of the people that are hand picked middle classers saying it's okay to raise taxes. we don't want to lose the farm. we don't want to lose public exand he sat there with no response. i thought it was telling. sgh he's not a good candidate. we won't get elected if they bring up what they call his candidate skills. you can't diss somebody's cookies made by an independent bakery and say these look like they came from 7-11. that's in pennsylvania, they're calling it cookie gate. >> there's some people on twitter saying he's a jerk for doing that. it was a nice gesture.
>> it's hard to campaign. it's not fair to say that he's a jerk. people who work with him liked him fine as a human being. you have to do certain things to connect to the american people if you're going to be successful in politics. he's just not getting it done on than front. when things come out like his new house has an elevator, not for people, but for cars. these sorts of details have a way of lodging in people's minds. >> thank you. unemployment in ohio is lower now. mitt romney's add vier says obama should get no credit. an ohio mayor tells us why the president's policies actually worked. mitt romney's newest hire is a well known gop communication strategist. he has a habit of making sexist remarks on twitter. the republican war on women continues. stay tuned. it's very important to understand
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no one should trust mitt romney to write any history books. romney was add a closed factory in ohio and blamed president obama for it being shut. >> president's plans worked, it would be open by now. it's still empty. it underscores the president's failure of this policy with regards to getting the economy
going. >> the factory was closed in 2008 when george bush was president. when bush took office in 2001, there were 17.1 manufacturing jobs in the country. when he left the number was down to 12.5 million. during bush's last two years in office, one and a half manufacturing jobs war lost. compare the numbers to president obama's past two years in office when the u.s. gained 500,000 manufacturing jobs. . it's strange for mitt romney to go to ohio and said the president's policies failed. he inherited a unemployment rate of 8.6%. it peaked at 10%. two years later it's dropped to 7.6%. ohio's unemployment is below the nationalç average. mitt romney's sketch a sketch
moment again, his advisor says those numbers don't count. president obama cannot take any credit for any success on the jobs front, none at all. i guess the romney campaign doesn't understand 25 straight months of private sector job growth. according to romney, president obama gets all the blame for president bush's policies and none of the credit for his own. joining me now is the mayor of lorraine, ohio. i need you to respond to this rhetoric that the romney camp is putting out. have president obama's policies been bad for ohio? >> sure. first of all, thank you for having me on the show tonight. the issue a few days ago was president obama came into loraine county to the community college is one of the gems in our community.
they have invested in education and training programs for employee where is their job placement rate is 90%. the next day, governor romney stopped by the national plant in loraine, ohio. the national plant was toured by then candidate obama in february of 2008. it closed in june of 2008. the industry saw a lot of town turn and its eventual shutting of the doors. we can point a lot ofç finkegef who is responsible. it started before president obama took office. we're seeing a shattering inventory out there now that the banks have made their settlements. that's still out there. it's still an issue. in loraine, ohio, we're moving ahead. we have seen them choose public
steel over mexico to make an investment. add 449 jobs. we're seeing u.s. steel with increased orders as a result of a number of market factors. together the steel industry is seeing a benefit because of the automobile bailout. another lorain company manufactured the backings of the seats for ford and general motors. >> why did mitt romney go toty of those factories? you're telling me they are better off than they were four years ago? >> lorain county is better off. the city is better off. we're moving forward each and every day. i made clear that i prefer that governor romney when he came to loraine if he would be kind enough to come back, i would like to spend time with the governor to show him what is working. >> you'd like mitt romney to come back. you'd like him to host him and show him where it is good?
>> i absolutely would. >> has he offered any kind of specifics about job growth or did he just go there and put up a sign that obama isn't working? >> it was basically an obama isn't working showcasing a closing factory. thatç upset me as mayor becaus of the a lot of good thing wes have going on. our location is great. we're on the water front. we have major companies adding jobs. better days are ahead ff lorain, and i'd like to attitude to disdikus that. >> the mood of the people, the attitude of the people. take us down that road. >> sure. i think senate bill five, ill cobbled together so many things that offended so many people. look, i think in cities both unions and management, bargaining, nonbargaining, they know that times have been tough.
times have been tough in ohio. we still have some challenges that remain. we all need to make some sacrifices. the nature of senate bill five and how far it went, i think em bold people in they can make a difference. it'smy hope that they remember that this fall. >> great to have you with us on "the ed show." thanks so much. you definitely know your community. there's a lot more coming up. stay with us. it's as bishops, represented the plan fails to meet moral criteria. what does that do to the public support of your plan among catholics. >> catholics are pushing back on the republican lead war on the poor. >> michael eric dyson will weigh in next. mitt romney has a problem with a new campaign hire. that's head. michele bachmann's obama
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that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. wisconsin congressman paul ryan is one of the leaders of the republican war on the poor. he defends his cruel budget, cuts by pointing toç his own faith. >> a person's faith is central to how they conduct themselves in public and in private. using my catholic faith, we call it the social imagine tier ya, which is how do you apply the doctrine of your teaching to your every day life as layperson. >> catholic leaders don't believe he's applying the teachings of his faith. the ryan budget takes $5.3 trillion from programs and gives $4.3 trillion back to the wealthiest americans.
the u.s. conference of catholic bishops has asked congress to resist proposed cuts to hunger and nutrition programs. the letter speaks on behalf of all u.s. bishops but as of last night he was still dismissing it. >> this is some of the bishops. i welcome this kind of dialogue. i think it's fine. good people of good will can have a disagreement over how to prioritize spending. >> in an interview, ryan said the claims by the bishops were intended to divide catholics. >> i'm reading a headline. it says bishops representative ryan's plan fails to meet moral criteria. what does that do to the public support of your plan among catholics? >> maybe that's the contention to try to erode the public support of our plan. >> the catholic bishops don't exactly endorse the democratic party platform, but paul ryan
says both groups are trying to divide a wedge, and drive a wedge between catholics when it comes to the poor. let's turn to michaelç eric dyson. professor, great to have you with us tonight. the republicans, they loved it when the bishops defended their position on contraception. how can congressman from wisconsin dismiss the bishops this time around? >> well, it's really strange. he says it's not all the bishops. like we could take kwar ri of them and find out what they believe. i think mr. ryan is not serious about engaging his debate in the critical dimensions of social justice. they agreed with him on the abortion stuff, disagrees with him about the budget and mr. ryan seems to be cherry picking. he's willing to accept their
recommendations visa kr contraception but not when it comes to social justice for the poorest of the poor. >> i want to play a key moment from ryan's interview. >> poverty rates are so high, yet we throwing so much money p at the programs. why don't we fix the programs to break the cycle of poverty. we will crowd out the civil society, those charities, church, institutions in our local communities that do the most to have a human touch to help people in need. that's what we want to empower. >> let me paraphrase. this man wants the poor to pay more and sacrifice more in america so the wealthiest americans can have more money themselves. is this guy putting assistance for the poor on the backs of charities and churches a genuine approach toç this? >> he's doing that. further more he's saying the government will wash its hantds of all responsibility and the programs and policies that made
these people poor or perpetuated legacies of enequity along the last 30 or 40 years can be dismissed and now organizations, charities and religious constitutions have to bear the burden for this. this is why the assault on the snap program and other economic distributions mechanisms by the federal government have been dismissed by mr. ryan. now he wants to put it back on the backs of those in the private world. i think that's really ridiculous and contrary to the best impulses of his faith and the faith that we obviously share. >> i think it's a real profound point that liberals and democrats got to make that even if the wealthy pr paying a bit more, these cuts hurt americans unnecessarily. millions of americans in this country that depend on tenneshe stamps and the republicans are saying they are people just don't want to work or accept the
position and the condition that they are living in. >> look what happened when hurricane katrina came. when the economic bailout on wall street came along, millions and millions of dollars being devoted to the coffers of those rich and no claims about let us pull ourselves up by our boot straps. they want to leave the poor to their own devices. shred the safety net while protecting the interests of thoseç at the top. jesus satd take care of those that are the least of these. you will be judged by how you visit those in prison and take care of the poor and deal with the window and visit those in prison. those are the pamarks of gene y win and authentic faith. >> michael eric dyson, you say it so well, so often. appreciate your time. the newest romney spokesman has plenty to say especially
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mitt romney is leading the charge in the republican war on women. he's for the blunt-rubio amendment. it's for the ryan budget and wants to repeal obama care. here is the latest. his newest hire is former bush administration official. he will serve as the campaign's national security spokesman high pressu pressu pressure. he frequently uses twitter to launch personal sexist atakes against women. hillary is just starting to look
like madeline albright. he has no problem attacking other candidates spouses, including the first lady. do you think callista's hair snaps on. she stands there like she's wife number one. did you notice while michelle obama is working out on the biggest loser, she's sweating on the east room's carpet. she's saying. he will be weighing in on foreign policy issues with the romney campaign. he also has plenty to say about the president's health care policy. free contraception is really obama'sç population control strategy. obama, no condom left behind. you'd think a communication strategist would have a little more sense when it comes to making public remarks in a public forum. he said it was meant to be hue moorous and offered an je.
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massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. congresswoman michelle backman attacked the president's proposal to curb oil speculators. she managed to use a racial slur. >> if there's a problem then president obama is the problem for failing to utilize these tools that he has. this is just about waving tar baby in the air and saying that something else is a problem. i have never seen a more ir reresponsible president who is infantile in the way that he continuely blames everybody else
for his failure to first diagnose the problem and second to address the problem. >> the term tar baby comes from the uncle rimus stories used to describe a doll made of tar and turpentine. it was used to entrap bear rabbit in the story. it has since become a racially charged term. a spokeswoman claims the analogy had nothing to do with race. it isn't the first time a republican used the term to attack the president and his policies. congressman dug labor compared compromising with president obama to torching a tar baby. he claimed he didn't know the phrase had a negative racial con notation. . i find it hard to believe, great to have you with us tonight, that an educated congressional
member would not know what tar baby means. your thoughts. >> i think they know exactly what it means. it's not the only racially charged rhetoric that's being used. i think that what we see now, which will be heating up is a lot of racially charged language that in the united statesç we have a long tradition of defining true americans as being white americans. they are appealing to the certain part of the electorate who views president obama as not quite american. we see this with the birther movement and with he's a muz lick. they know exactly what they are doing and when she uses the term tar baby, she is appealing to those sentiments. >> i think it has something to do with where they say it. i noticed she didn't say it on
meet the press. a strategy here? >> i think very much so that candidates run very different campaigns for different audiences. the problem is, as you've pointed out, there is so many ways in social media to get the word out that no candidate should be saying these things in any forum and not expect it to be tape and replayed. >> here is congressman mike fits practice sick saying president obama will committ treason if reelected. >> let them restrain without the inhibitions of the next election you have flexibility. flexibility to do what he wants to do whether it's trade away secrets of our national intelligence to what he could do to the united states supreme court. >> it's a pretty much all the rails even for tea party guy. also, this week we had the whole thing with ted nugent inciting
violence. it seems like, and then scqáing with the secret service, mitt romney still hasn't denounced any of this rhetoric on the campaign trail. is this the way it's going to be this year? >> yes, i think this is the way it's going to be. i think it's going to get ugly as they use this strategy. the fact that we're seeing so much violent and racialized language coming out so early as soon as the republicans have their candidate is indicative ov what's coming. the problem is it's not in a vacuum. there's been a 240% increase this hate groups. there's been an increase in actual violence against people of color in this country since obama was elected. he has faced a 400% increase in threats against his life compared to george w. bush. this rhetoric is not in a vacuum. it does reflect and uphold violence in ou